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Post by Kez on Jan 24, 2012 13:34:04 GMT -1
I am smitten with the Cumberbatch
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Post by tc on Jan 24, 2012 13:58:37 GMT -1
leon and i just watched the first two episodes. it's fantastic ...
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Post by Kez on Jan 24, 2012 14:04:49 GMT -1
I haven't seen the first series yet but loved the second one. Can't remember the last time I've seen so many people agree on the quality of a series so much before. Think they'll be under pressure to do series number 3! Won't happen this year though
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Post by birch on Feb 19, 2012 10:13:31 GMT -1
My husband and I have been watching some episodes (must be from the first series as it's on Norwegian TV) and I'd never thought I'd be coming back for more, to be honest. Back in the days I read all of Conan Doyle's books and I've seen a few TV/film versions. Very few of them good. But this "adjusted to the current" version is fascinating, isn't it. In every episode I feel they're about to go over the top. But somehow they manage to keep it - barely - within the limits, so to speak. Seems it often makes for a better film or TV version when they just stick to the main idea and storyline of a book but create a new "product". Like LOTR - I never thought I'd like those films, but I adore them. Similar with music, I think; cover versions are always best when the artist changes the song enough to make it their own. In my opinion, of course, that is.
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Post by tc on Feb 19, 2012 12:08:50 GMT -1
Sherlock is a rare example of when the British do tv very, very well. I have heard that a US version is being made
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Post by birch on Feb 19, 2012 12:22:12 GMT -1
Sherlock is a rare example of when the British do tv very, very well. I have heard that a US version is being made Viewed from Norway, the British seem to do TV better than most! Maybe it's because the Norwegian Broadcasting Company (owned by the state, mind ) buy all the best series and programs, so we get to see the very best? But really. Downton Abbey? Prime Suspect (with Helen Mirren)? Cracker? And from the old days; Brideshead, Jewel in the Crown, etc. etc. That's just a few - and they're all BRILLIANT? Yes?
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Post by Dave G on Feb 20, 2012 7:16:00 GMT -1
It really is a superbly 'fresh' television series. Massive Sherlock Holmes fan, and he has him off to a tee.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, check out 'Luther'. Much along the same lines as a great fresh drama.
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Post by Kez on Feb 20, 2012 9:18:59 GMT -1
My husband and I have been watching some episodes (must be from the first series as it's on Norwegian TV) and I'd never thought I'd be coming back for more, to be honest. Back in the days I read all of Conan Doyle's books and I've seen a few TV/film versions. Very few of them good. But this "adjusted to the current" version is fascinating, isn't it. In every episode I feel they're about to go over the top. But somehow they manage to keep it - barely - within the limits, so to speak. Seems it often makes for a better film or TV version when they just stick to the main idea and storyline of a book but create a new "product". Like LOTR - I never thought I'd like those films, but I adore them. Similar with music, I think; cover versions are always best when the artist changes the song enough to make it their own. In my opinion, of course, that is. I think that's what I like about it too - they have managed to update it without going over the top. They haven't stuck Sherlock in converse, made him listen to Coldplay or made him an upbeat and smug loveable rogue (which they have done for the latest Hollywood films) What they've actually done is made him a miserable downbeat sod, out of touch with society and a bit of a geek. By making him a far more flawed character, they have made him far more interesting. The scene where he does his super sleuth assessment of Molly when she turns up for their christmas party for example. That sort of hurtful and cruelness that he can't help but once he realises what he has done, instantly regrets. It's very human and very touching and really well acted.
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Post by tc on Feb 20, 2012 9:19:39 GMT -1
He's a bit Aspergery, I reckon.
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Post by Kez on Feb 20, 2012 9:21:52 GMT -1
He's a bit Aspergery, I reckon. Yes, in that scene particularly. Everyone can see it and he's the last to realise it. When anyone else would realise her feelings were being hurt it's something that takes a long time for him to register.
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Post by birch on Feb 20, 2012 14:33:20 GMT -1
You're probably right, tc and Kez. And that would be quite according to Conan Doyle's original Sherlock character, I think, although the diagnosis was not known at the time.
Swedish and Danish TV have created a series called 'Broen' (The Bridge) that is shown on Norwegian TV at the moment. One of the main characters is similar in many ways to the Sherlock character - and the actor is even better, in my opinion.
Henriette, if you should be reading this, have you seen 'Broen'? I'm so impressed, at least so far.
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Post by dfw on Feb 20, 2012 20:37:22 GMT -1
Bolox I really enjoyed the first series but I missed the entire second series...fastpasstv.ms beckons methinks...elementary my dear Tim from "The Office"
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Post by dfw on Feb 20, 2012 20:40:31 GMT -1
Birch I will check out Broen I am obsessed with all things Scandi at the moment.
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Post by Sam7 on Feb 21, 2012 18:39:11 GMT -1
I managed to miss both series, so I've just downloaded them all to watch. Will come back with my thoughts!
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Post by birch on Feb 23, 2012 10:12:14 GMT -1
Birch I will check out Broen I am obsessed with all things Scandi at the moment. Hope it's available - it probably will be in time at least, it's too good not to be distributed outside Scandinavia!
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Post by Sara on Feb 26, 2012 20:07:39 GMT -1
I'm loving it. I have one episode left on Series 2, but have had to watch it on a semi-dodgy streaming site because our PBS stations and Netflix only have Series 1 so far. PBS is supposed to start airing 2 soon, but I got impatient. It's good stuff!
I don't quite get swooney over Cumberbatch in the same way a lot of people do, but I do love a smart person who is very talented at something. As far as "Yeah, I'd get with that," I'm more of a Watson gal myself.
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Post by Sam7 on Mar 26, 2012 16:06:41 GMT -1
Don't know if anyone has heard, but there's to be a US version made with Johnny Lee Miller as Sherlock, and - get this - Lucy Liu as Watson. It's to be called 'Elementary'. Thoughts?
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Post by Kez on Mar 27, 2012 6:36:10 GMT -1
I don't know....it depends on who directs it. It is basically going to be brilliant or utter shit. There will be no middle.
I just don't think you should mess with the format too much which is why Sherlock worked so well. They updated it and made it more modern but didn't run away with it.
Very sceptical about a female Watson. Why did they need to do that? It's not like there are a shortage of female characters and even if there were, it is all about the dynamic between the two men which makes it so interesting.
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Post by Sam7 on Mar 27, 2012 8:05:58 GMT -1
I don't know....it depends on who directs it. It is basically going to be brilliant or utter shit. There will be no middle. I just don't think you should mess with the format too much which is why Sherlock worked so well. They updated it and made it more modern but didn't run away with it. Very sceptical about a female Watson. Why did they need to do that? It's not like there are a shortage of female characters and even if there were, it is all about the dynamic between the two men which makes it so interesting. for me, one of the more endearing parts of Sherlock was the bromance angle. Also, some humor was gleaned from people assuming they're a couple etc. I can't fathom a female Watson either, seems a step too far. You know what these corporations can be like though: "Hey, how about we make Watson an Asian?" "Yeah, okay, but an Asian WOMAN!"
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Post by Sam7 on Mar 27, 2012 8:06:35 GMT -1
Also, Stephen Moffat and Mark Gatiss aren't amused either.
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Post by Kez on Mar 27, 2012 10:12:52 GMT -1
Well it's silly because I think with adaptations like these, you really should retain some element(ary) of the original idea so as to make people want to go and read the novels surely? Even the big screen Hollywood adaptation managed that and I think Sherlock manages to do that. Bastardising it beyond all recognition but just lifting a few plot lines doesn't really make sense to me. I think you have a sense of responsibilty to pay tribute to the original author and creator, no?
You can just see it now, Jonny Lee Miller will be the scruffy New Yorker troubled genius who lives in Baker Street Towers while Lucy Liu will live downstairs - the marshal arts expert and beautiful Dr Watson who shuns Sherlock's advances but somehow gets involved in the mysterious goings on in his world and who, over time, develops a grudging respect for Sherlock and possibly a hint of romance....? I can see it getting canned after a series.
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Post by Hartleys on Jul 6, 2012 21:24:14 GMT -1
i have seen approx one and half episodes and am totally addicted
The other half yet to see it but I know he will enjoy MORE than what I have!
Sometimes, just sometimes, the BBC nail it
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